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: Re: LUG: Schedule for the coming semester - ideas
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: "Kyle Bolton" <kabolton@ncsu.[redacted]>
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: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:43:32 -0500
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Yes and no. Im not sure what you mean by cover. We dont teach OS's, just
how more to use your computer. We have students that have macs yes.
> Jay,
>
> Does E115 ever cover OSX? My two cents would be to cover all of the
> basic, common computing platforms supported on campus.
>
> Jack
>
> On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 11:35:58AM -0500, jpgoel@ncsu.[redacted] wrote:
>> Thing is, I think we tend to think of E115 as "intro to linux". But from
>> what I hear, it also aims to serve as a "intro to managing your own
>> computer." This explains why more E115 sections are laptop-based, and I
>> think its also a good goal.
>>
>> I've worked with CSC116 students who didn't take E115 or place out (they
>> were still in first year college or something, and thus were not
>> required
>> to take it.)
>>
>> They were extremely bright, but had no concept of what a "directory" was
>> or the difference between Windows' "shell" vs "gui". So I agree that
>> E115
>> can't just be about "linux", because the course is preparing people for
>> hardcore computing classes. So it also needs to cover the bread and
>> butter
>> of filesystems and other underpinnings - on both Windows and Linux. It
>> does us no good to have people who are experts in linux commandline but
>> can't see the Windows analogies, they are both important technologies.
>>
>> As of late, the E115 folks seem to have shifted to more of a
>> Windows-centric approach to teaching the material. This is fine -
>> students
>> will learn whatever linux they need as they take more courses. But I'm
>> in
>> favor of bumping up the linux-ness not so it doesn't seem arcane, but
>> because it will boost students' grades when they enter CSC 116.
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> On Sat, January 9, 2010 11:06 am, iyare omoruyi wrote:
>> > I placed out of E115 back in the summer of '96. It was a summer
>> session
>> > before being formally accepted as a freshman in the college of
>> > engineering.
>> > We were provided an instructor who gave us classes for like 2 weeks
>> > instruction or so in order to have enough information and place out.
>> > E115,
>> > for me, was just to get over the initial shock of linux. That is it.
>> I
>> > was
>> > able to navigate to files, create directories...the basic stuff. What
>> was
>> > lacking was the reason why it should have been taken further;The
>> benefits
>> > it
>> > would provide later in life. I think if the college of engineering
>> where
>> > serious, they would provide something beyond E115. But then again, I
>> > guess
>> > they figure "You know where the library is."
>> >
>> > Iyare
>> >
>> > 10 years of newbiness
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Daniel Underwood
>> > <daniel.underwood@ncsu.[redacted]>wrote:
>> >
>> >> I don't get it. What's wrong with the current material? I kinda like
>> >> it. Granted, it's simple, and granted, it doesn't represent the state
>> of
>> >> Linux art. Is the dissatisfaction just due to the fact that the
>> course
>> >> does a poor job of "selling" Linux?
>> >> --
>> >> Daniel Underwood
>> >> North Carolina State University
>> >> Graduate Student - Operations Research
>> >> email: daniel.underwood@ncsu.[redacted]
>> >> phone: XXX.302.3291
>> >> web: http://www4.ncsu.edu/~djunderw/
>> <http://www4.ncsu.edu/%7Edjunderw/>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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> Jack Neely <jjneely@ncsu.[redacted]>
> Linux Czar, OIT Campus Linux Services
> Office of Information Technology, NC State University
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Kyle Bolton
Cisco Certified Networking Associate (CCNA)
E115 Senior Instructor
ITECS EOS HelpDesk Consultant
Electrical And Computer Engineering
North Carolina State University