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From : lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]

Date : Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:58:21 -0400


The Lug Digest
Volume 1 : Issue 378 : "text" Format

Messages in this Issue:
201607/1 : Re: Char has been upgraded
Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
201607/2 : Re: Char has been upgraded
Antonious Iskander <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]>

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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 22:53:23 -0400
From: Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Char has been upgraded
Message-ID: <CANhSzx0bt+EFE5uaC863pchD9GvWduZQwE6YWF-9D1kSb3g-gA@mail.gmail.[redacted]>

For email addresses I believe we would need to configure an email server. I
think that is an option, we can probably offer @lug.ncsu.edu addresses.
Will have to check.

I'm fine allowing club members web hosting (as we presently do,
http://nilbus.com/ is hosted on short).

Quentin

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Antonious Iskander <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]>
wrote:

> what about web hosting? or private email addresses?
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>
>> I think if we hosted a VPN or anonymous web proxy on a University rack
>> terminating inside the University network the University would be very
>> upset with us. Not an option, I'm afraid.
>> On Jun 28, 2016 6:08 PM, "Antonious Iskander" <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>
>>> how about a vpn or an anonomous web proxy?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am wrong, students retain IP over their code. However the FAQ does
>>>> indeed note:
>>>>
>>>> *"NCSU GitHub is specifically designed to not compete with Github.com
>>>> as far as public offering. “Public” inside of NCSU GitHub is public to the
>>>> institution, not the world. If a given project is truly open source, then
>>>> it may be more appropriate to host it at GitHub.com with a personal
>>>> account."*
>>>>
>>>> ...or on your friendly neighborhood Linux User Group's hosted git
>>>> service :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, I may be wrong on this front, but I recall reading
>>>>> somewhere that the University retains many privileges and some form of
>>>>> copyright over any code hosted there. If anyone has further information on
>>>>> this I'd love to know more, but that's my understanding.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NCSU's GitHub Enterprise instance is fully private and requires LDAP
>>>>>> authentication with your Unity credentials. Repositories are not
>>>>>> world-readable. My vote is still with a hosted Git service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Neill Robson <nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, I had not thought of that! Well, a hosted git service was the
>>>>>>> only idea I had, unfortunately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/16/2016 08:31 AM, Antonious Iskander wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> since ncsu has GitHub already then it would just be a redundant
>>>>>>> service to have gitlab or gogs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Brian Cottingham <
>>>>>>> <spiffytech@gmail.[redacted]>spiffytech@gmail.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My previous employer tried very hard to use GitLab and had to
>>>>>>>> switch to GitHub because GitLab's performance just wasn't there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Todd Edwards < <todd@mtn.[redacted]>
>>>>>>>> todd@mtn.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Might I suggest something like Gogs (https://gogs.io/) instead of
>>>>>>>>> Gitlab? In my experience the performance/hardware requirements of Gitlab in
>>>>>>>>> comparison is night and day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I just needed to get that out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- Todd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Neill Robson <
>>>>>>>>> <nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]>nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My vote is also still for a GitLab instance, since it leaves
>>>>>>>>>> possibilities open for both personal and club-wide projects wherever
>>>>>>>>>> programming is necessary (which is, of course, nearly everywhere).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the radio silence on my end; I've been in China
>>>>>>>>>> since the beginning of May and haven't had consistent access to email.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hope everybody's summer is going well!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 06/15/2016 08:15 AM, Quentin Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi again!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I made a typo in the last email; we upgraded *char*,
>>>>>>>>>> not short, to Xenial.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Still haven't gotten any suggestions about what to use it for
>>>>>>>>>> though! Let thy voice be heard!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>> Quentin
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Quentin Young <
>>>>>>>>>> <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce that myself and our Vice President, Tony
>>>>>>>>>>> Iskander,
>>>>>>>>>>> successfully upgraded short to Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) on
>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
>>>>>>>>>>> Installation went without a hitch, and you can expect some more
>>>>>>>>>>> details on our
>>>>>>>>>>> website soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As of now there are no user accounts (except for myself) because
>>>>>>>>>>> we haven't yet
>>>>>>>>>>> decided what to do with this particular piece of hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestions I have
>>>>>>>>>>> heard so far are:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - seti@home
>>>>>>>>>>> - folding@home
>>>>>>>>>>> - others that I forgot
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear suggestions from members as to what we want
>>>>>>>>>>> to use this
>>>>>>>>>>> server for. Keep in mind it is an old server and its specs are
>>>>>>>>>>> not quite as
>>>>>>>>>>> beefy as Short:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.8 GHz Intel Xeon, quadcore
>>>>>>>>>>> - 3 GB memory (lol)
>>>>>>>>>>> - 1 TB HDD
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My personal vote is for a GitLab instance. I've also been
>>>>>>>>>>> thinking about
>>>>>>>>>>> whether it might be prudent to simply move all of our hosted
>>>>>>>>>>> services onto this
>>>>>>>>>>> lower power server (currently those are the website and ZNC) and
>>>>>>>>>>> keep short as
>>>>>>>>>>> a higher performance server for use by club members. Anyway,
>>>>>>>>>>> reply and let me
>>>>>>>>>>> know what you think!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy the rest of your weekend,
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Quentin Young
>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>


--
Quentin Young
President, LUG @ NC State


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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 09:52:17 -0400
From: Antonious Iskander <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Char has been upgraded
Message-ID: <CAFAjCZP6189AxnBcfmauqiotZ12ynVLU5f=nePjpsLepNhQCcA@mail.gmail.[redacted]>

That's cool. How do we have access to do web hosting? Also, for email
addresses @lug is fine but can we also customize our own? Thanks.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:

> For email addresses I believe we would need to configure an email server.
> I think that is an option, we can probably offer @lug.ncsu.edu addresses.
> Will have to check.
>
> I'm fine allowing club members web hosting (as we presently do,
> http://nilbus.com/ is hosted on short).
>
> Quentin
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 6:13 AM, Antonious Iskander <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]>
> wrote:
>
>> what about web hosting? or private email addresses?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:19 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think if we hosted a VPN or anonymous web proxy on a University rack
>>> terminating inside the University network the University would be very
>>> upset with us. Not an option, I'm afraid.
>>> On Jun 28, 2016 6:08 PM, "Antonious Iskander" <amiskand@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how about a vpn or an anonomous web proxy?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am wrong, students retain IP over their code. However the FAQ does
>>>>> indeed note:
>>>>>
>>>>> *"NCSU GitHub is specifically designed to not compete with Github.com
>>>>> as far as public offering. “Public” inside of NCSU GitHub is public to the
>>>>> institution, not the world. If a given project is truly open source, then
>>>>> it may be more appropriate to host it at GitHub.com with a personal
>>>>> account."*
>>>>>
>>>>> ...or on your friendly neighborhood Linux User Group's hosted git
>>>>> service :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Additionally, I may be wrong on this front, but I recall reading
>>>>>> somewhere that the University retains many privileges and some form of
>>>>>> copyright over any code hosted there. If anyone has further information on
>>>>>> this I'd love to know more, but that's my understanding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:01 PM, Quentin Young <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NCSU's GitHub Enterprise instance is fully private and requires LDAP
>>>>>>> authentication with your Unity credentials. Repositories are not
>>>>>>> world-readable. My vote is still with a hosted Git service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Neill Robson <nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ah, I had not thought of that! Well, a hosted git service was the
>>>>>>>> only idea I had, unfortunately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06/16/2016 08:31 AM, Antonious Iskander wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> since ncsu has GitHub already then it would just be a redundant
>>>>>>>> service to have gitlab or gogs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Brian Cottingham <
>>>>>>>> <spiffytech@gmail.[redacted]>spiffytech@gmail.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My previous employer tried very hard to use GitLab and had to
>>>>>>>>> switch to GitHub because GitLab's performance just wasn't there.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Todd Edwards < <todd@mtn.[redacted]>
>>>>>>>>> todd@mtn.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Might I suggest something like Gogs (https://gogs.io/) instead
>>>>>>>>>> of Gitlab? In my experience the performance/hardware requirements of Gitlab
>>>>>>>>>> in comparison is night and day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I just needed to get that out.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- Todd
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Neill Robson <
>>>>>>>>>> <nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]>nlrobson@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My vote is also still for a GitLab instance, since it leaves
>>>>>>>>>>> possibilities open for both personal and club-wide projects wherever
>>>>>>>>>>> programming is necessary (which is, of course, nearly everywhere).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My apologies for the radio silence on my end; I've been in China
>>>>>>>>>>> since the beginning of May and haven't had consistent access to email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hope everybody's summer is going well!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/15/2016 08:15 AM, Quentin Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi again!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks like I made a typo in the last email; we upgraded *char*,
>>>>>>>>>>> not short, to Xenial.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Still haven't gotten any suggestions about what to use it for
>>>>>>>>>>> though! Let thy voice be heard!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>>> Quentin
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Quentin Young <
>>>>>>>>>>> <qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]>qlyoung@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm happy to announce that myself and our Vice President, Tony
>>>>>>>>>>>> Iskander,
>>>>>>>>>>>> successfully upgraded short to Ubuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Friday.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Installation went without a hitch, and you can expect some more
>>>>>>>>>>>> details on our
>>>>>>>>>>>> website soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As of now there are no user accounts (except for myself)
>>>>>>>>>>>> because we haven't yet
>>>>>>>>>>>> decided what to do with this particular piece of hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggestions I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> heard so far are:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - seti@home
>>>>>>>>>>>> - folding@home
>>>>>>>>>>>> - others that I forgot
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would love to hear suggestions from members as to what we
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to use this
>>>>>>>>>>>> server for. Keep in mind it is an old server and its specs are
>>>>>>>>>>>> not quite as
>>>>>>>>>>>> beefy as Short:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 2.8 GHz Intel Xeon, quadcore
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 3 GB memory (lol)
>>>>>>>>>>>> - 1 TB HDD
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My personal vote is for a GitLab instance. I've also been
>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking about
>>>>>>>>>>>> whether it might be prudent to simply move all of our hosted
>>>>>>>>>>>> services onto this
>>>>>>>>>>>> lower power server (currently those are the website and ZNC)
>>>>>>>>>>>> and keep short as
>>>>>>>>>>>> a higher performance server for use by club members. Anyway,
>>>>>>>>>>>> reply and let me
>>>>>>>>>>>> know what you think!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enjoy the rest of your weekend,
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>>>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Quentin Young
>>>>> President, LUG @ NC State
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Quentin Young
> President, LUG @ NC State
>


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