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The Lug Digest
Volume 1 : Issue 309 : "text" Format
Messages in this Issue:
201304/22 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Christopher E Bowen <ceb018@bravemail.uncp.[redacted]>
201304/24 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Marhn Fullmer <mhfullme@ncsu.[redacted]>
201304/23 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Barry Peddycord III <bwpeddyc@ncsu.[redacted]>
201304/25 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]>
201305/1 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Bill Farrow <bill@arrowsreach.[redacted]>
201305/2 : Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]>
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 00:56:01 +0000
From: Christopher E Bowen <ceb018@bravemail.uncp.[redacted]>
To: "lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]" <lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]>
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <AC4D3CEDC619F148BFE92D040A78295822600A89@SN2PRD0102MB107.prod.exchangelabs.[redacted]>
The problem is not the weekly LUG, but the monthly TriLug. I have not see all the classrooms, and I am sure we have some nice lecture halls, but the last TriLug I went to had a load of people.
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From: lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted] [lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]] on behalf of Barry Peddycord III [bwpeddyc@ncsu.[redacted]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:50 PM
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: LUG: Fall Semester Meeting Days
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Ideally we won't have to worry about getting any "special" rooms. The
plan is to get a classroom reserved through Registration and Records,
same as any other club. I can't imagine a place in Hunt that we'd be
able to get on a weekly basis that's big enough for our own group, let
alone TriLUG.
So far, the best luck we've had has been in EB1 1007, and I'll be
happy with any room in EB1, 2, or 3. Either way, I can't get a room
through R&R until the second week of the fall semester.
~ Barry
On 04/30/2013 08:42 PM, Christopher E Bowen wrote:
> This was actually something I was thinking about pitching to Jack
> Neely and the other NCSU staff. If we could maybe get a location in
> EB2 or Hunt I think it would work out great, other than the
> wireless.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
*From:* lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted] [lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]] on behalf of
> Shrenik Shah [ssshah5@ncsu.[redacted]] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013
> 2:36 PM *To:* lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted] *Subject:* Re: LUG: Fall Semester
> Meeting Days
>
> Hey Barry,
>
> The joint meeting plan sounds really good. It would be great to
> have TriLUG meetings/sessions on NCSU campus because that would be
> convenient to attend (on campus) and will also increase
> participation for both TriLUG/NCSULUG.
>
> Shrenik
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:30:29 -0400
From: Marhn Fullmer <mhfullme@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <CAEqhxv6eAYvjxL1qfQwCsXU_gQSCfBB0WWsPRiLO4HPzhcd8KA@mail.gmail.[redacted]>
Hi,
1020(?), 1025, 1220, 1225 are large capacity in EBII;
for those with access to it - me, Carlos B.(?), Dan Green,
etc. ) in ad astra for Facilities can tell capacity of rooms for
scheduling. I'm not sure of door closing time for EGRC 136
(N.B. - another building & parking deck(s)) but that has to be
coordinated by COE Dean's Office just like 3002 EBII
( Progress Energy Conference Room on the EBII Bridge
between the East ("CSC") and West
"ECE") wings.)
tnx,
Marhn Fullmer
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Christopher E Bowen <
ceb018@bravemail.uncp.[redacted]> wrote:
> The problem is not the weekly LUG, but the monthly TriLug. I have not see
> all the classrooms, and I am sure we have some nice lecture halls, but the
> last TriLug I went to had a load of people.
> ________________________________________
> From: lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted] [lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]] on behalf of
> Barry Peddycord III [bwpeddyc@ncsu.[redacted]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:50 PM
> To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
> Subject: Re: LUG: Fall Semester Meeting Days
>
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> Ideally we won't have to worry about getting any "special" rooms. The
> plan is to get a classroom reserved through Registration and Records,
> same as any other club. I can't imagine a place in Hunt that we'd be
> able to get on a weekly basis that's big enough for our own group, let
> alone TriLUG.
>
> So far, the best luck we've had has been in EB1 1007, and I'll be
> happy with any room in EB1, 2, or 3. Either way, I can't get a room
> through R&R until the second week of the fall semester.
>
> ~ Barry
>
>
>
> On 04/30/2013 08:42 PM, Christopher E Bowen wrote:
> > This was actually something I was thinking about pitching to Jack
> > Neely and the other NCSU staff. If we could maybe get a location in
> > EB2 or Hunt I think it would work out great, other than the
> > wireless.
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> *From:* lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted] [lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]] on behalf of
> > Shrenik Shah [ssshah5@ncsu.[redacted]] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013
> > 2:36 PM *To:* lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted] *Subject:* Re: LUG: Fall Semester
> > Meeting Days
> >
> > Hey Barry,
> >
> > The joint meeting plan sounds really good. It would be great to
> > have TriLUG meetings/sessions on NCSU campus because that would be
> > convenient to attend (on campus) and will also increase
> > participation for both TriLUG/NCSULUG.
> >
> > Shrenik
> >
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 21:14:33 -0400
From: Barry Peddycord III <bwpeddyc@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <51806C79.9050604@ncsu.[redacted]>
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All of the reservable rooms are here:
http://www.ncsu.edu/registrar/scheduling/pdf/roomlist.pdf
EB1 1007 has a capacity of ~90, which is a gracious plenty for "usual"
TriLUG meetings. I've only been to a few that have exceeded that
count, and they were on unusually popular topics, like Raspberry Pi,
for instance.
~ Barry
On 04/30/2013 08:54 PM, Michael Marley wrote:
> Would EB1 1007 be big enough to fit TriLUG? I have never been to
> a TriLUG meeting before...
>
> Michael
>
> On 04/30/2013 08:50 PM, Barry Peddycord III wrote: Ideally we won't
> have to worry about getting any "special" rooms. The plan is to get
> a classroom reserved through Registration and Records, same as any
> other club. I can't imagine a place in Hunt that we'd be able to
> get on a weekly basis that's big enough for our own group, let
> alone TriLUG.
>
> So far, the best luck we've had has been in EB1 1007, and I'll be
> happy with any room in EB1, 2, or 3. Either way, I can't get a
> room through R&R until the second week of the fall semester.
>
> ~ Barry
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 19:24:01 -0700
From: Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <CAPfqvOc=HsNeOO-+nqatJXGp0hntrOr3oaK0E2kSgD2fySYM6w@mail.gmail.[redacted]>
A strong -1 to this endeavor, as I think there's a lot of downside for the
LUG without much upside.
Historically, the LUG has provided a lot of opportunities for students to
fill roles that I think a lot us wouldn't see or take advantage of
otherwise. Everything from giving talks, to organizing events, to leading
the club. With a constant ingress and egress of members this is pretty
natural and is a big win for the members in my opinion. It also means you
get the same talks every few years since a lot of the new members won't be
familiar with the material (how many times did we make Alex give that LaTeX
talk?). Once you combine meetings with a larger, more permanent group, I
imagine this type of thing is going to become a lot less common. The
semi-permanent members are going to want to see new talks, and a lot of the
speakers are going to be closer to the professional end than the hobbyist,
dorm-room hacker end. I think you'll see similar things happen when you
have an older, more permanent steering committee that the LUG's officers
now has to interact and coordinate with. I'd also be pretty nervous about
the average experience level of the members of the TriLUG scaring off
people who are newer to Linux that might feel more comfortable in a student
group.
Outside of some logistical wins, what do you guys see as being the big
benefit? Because in my mind, if they stay separate, students still have the
option of going to both meetings, so it isn't like students going to miss
out on any talks or socialization if they don't want to. From the other
perspective, there are a lot of people who are members of the LUG but not
the TriLUG, and I don't think that's just by chance.
Michael
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Christopher E Bowen <
ceb018@bravemail.uncp.[redacted]> wrote:
> This was actually something I was thinking about pitching to Jack Neely
> and the other NCSU staff. If we could maybe get a location in EB2 or Hunt I
> think it would work out great, other than the wireless.
> ------------------------------
> *From:* lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted] [lug-owner@lists.ncsu.[redacted]] on behalf of
> Shrenik Shah [ssshah5@ncsu.[redacted]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:36 PM
> *To:* lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
> *Subject:* Re: LUG: Fall Semester Meeting Days
>
> Hey Barry,
>
> The joint meeting plan sounds really good. It would be great to have
> TriLUG meetings/sessions on NCSU campus because that would be convenient to
> attend (on campus) and will also increase participation for both
> TriLUG/NCSULUG.
>
> Shrenik
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Dennis Hunter <dhunter@redhat.[redacted]> wrote:
>
>> +1 on the joint meetings
>>
>> Yours,
>> Dennis Hunter
>> Product Manager - Red Hat Platform Business Unit
>>
>> Skillful Means Response, Response Means Skillful, Means Response Skillful
>> - Zen....
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barry Peddycord III" <bwpeddyc@ncsu.[redacted]>
>> To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:07:01 AM
>> Subject: LUG: Fall Semester Meeting Days
>>
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>> Hai Lugz:
>>
>> I know it's a little early to be thinking about this, but I wanted to
>> get everyone thinking about which days we should be meeting in the
>> Fall semester. We've been meeting every Tuesday for as long as I can
>> remember, and we shifted it to Mondays this Spring to deal with my
>> night classes (when you're the president, you get to be selfish like
>> that!).
>>
>> While I don't want to make a habit of moving our meeting nights
>> around, one thing I wanted to pitch was the idea of a Thursday meeting
>> night for the primary reason of improving NCSULUG/TriLUG relations.
>> With TriLUG moving out of Red Hat soon, there's a need for a new
>> venue, and it would be super-awesome to establish a partnership where
>> the usual TriLUG meeting can serve as a joint NCSULUG/TriLUG meeting,
>> and we could host it at NCSU.
>>
>> This could seriously improve the opportunities for us to find speakers
>> for our own events, and improve networking opportunities for our
>> student members. In my two years of religiously attending TriLUG
>> talks, I've only been disappointed maybe twice, and I feel as though
>> there is a lot of potential for cross-pollination if this grows into a
>> healthy relationship. That being said, I recognize that some folks
>> might be opposed to this, which is why I'm bringing it up for discussion.
>>
>> I know using the discussion list for actually discussing things is
>> borderline heresy, but I'd like to get folks' opinion on the idea.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>> Barry Peddycord III
>> President, Round 2
>>
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>
>
> --
> *Shrenik Shah
> Graduate Student, Computer Networking- North Carolina State University.
> *
> Cell-phone : XXX-298-9248
>
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 11:26:19 -0400
From: Bill Farrow <bill@arrowsreach.[redacted]>
To: lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <CAPm8Nr1wo-Chxnn7DrBJj=baD71iyU3u7Uh+v7DDDmLwRvJS+Q@mail.gmail.[redacted]>
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]> wrote:
> A strong -1 to this endeavor, as I think there's a lot of downside for the
> LUG without much upside.
Would you still object if the LUG meetings are held every Thursday
night in EB2, and once a month TriLUG also met in EB2 on a Thursday ?
You would have the option of going to the LUG or TriLUG. Perhaps the
LUG could schedule that particular night as an informal workshop,
giving LUG members the option to go to the TriLUG meeting if the topic
was of interest.
TriLUG is currently in the process of securing a room in EB2 for our
meetings via friendly faculty staff. So I think Barry was looking to
stimulate more synergy between the groups - from which both groups
would benefit.
Bill
TriLUG Steering Committee
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 14:14:40 -0700
From: Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]>
To: NCSU LUG <lug@lists.ncsu.[redacted]>
Subject: Re: Fall Semester Meeting Days
Message-ID: <CAKVjoi2RARX-b6yMXS5rqApRn7e8GMejBdRR+LnNVh9PxXOmrQ@mail.gmail.[redacted]>
Why would we move the meetings to explicitly conflict? That seems even more
absurd and harmful to the people who do want to attend both.
The issues of TriLUG getting a room on-campus and combining the two
meetings are almost entirely orthogonal, and I'm still not sure what the
gains of the latter are for the LUG.
Michael
On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Bill Farrow <bill@arrowsreach.[redacted]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:24 PM, Michael Wright <mdwrigh2@ncsu.[redacted]>
> wrote:
> > A strong -1 to this endeavor, as I think there's a lot of downside for
> the
> > LUG without much upside.
>
> Would you still object if the LUG meetings are held every Thursday
> night in EB2, and once a month TriLUG also met in EB2 on a Thursday ?
>
> You would have the option of going to the LUG or TriLUG. Perhaps the
> LUG could schedule that particular night as an informal workshop,
> giving LUG members the option to go to the TriLUG meeting if the topic
> was of interest.
>
> TriLUG is currently in the process of securing a room in EB2 for our
> meetings via friendly faculty staff. So I think Barry was looking to
> stimulate more synergy between the groups - from which both groups
> would benefit.
>
> Bill
> TriLUG Steering Committee
>
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